From: El Gato <wmwilson01@...>
Date: 2006-11-19T12:06:58+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby vs Java vs c++

n/a wrote:
> hi, newbie so please be tolerant.... ;)
> 
> i need to start to learn a programming language to be able to develop
> custom aps to be applied to a variety of purposes but mainly 1) 
> financial
> data modeling--including graphics and data handling via database 
> queries,
> etc.; and 2) more general business-type aps.
> 
> my feeling is that i hate BLOATED sluggish programs (like some Java
> program running on older JVM's and perhaps not written in an optimal
> way....u get the idea.)
> 
> if i need to make a choice between fancy and efficient,
> speed, etc., then it's an easy choice 4 me of efficient.
> which is why i have just started w/ c++.
> 
> however, speaking to one my programmer friends who is a top level Java
> programmer (the stuff he writes is very efficient and fancy as
> well--great balance), he is telling me that 1) c++ is being phased out
> (except 4 real low level stuff like drivers, etc.) in favor of languages
> such as Java or Ruby. he recommends i switch from learning c++ to 
> learning
> Java or Ruby. i wd hope to be able to choose the best path and not have 
> to
> switch tack in the middle as my IT capablity is not a full time 
> activity,
> but more of a support 4 my main one--finance.
> 
> of course, learning curve is to be taken into consideration as well....
> 
> 'd love some comments that might help me consider my options and pick a
> path (c++, java or ruby) w/ a higher level of confidence..... i know 
> that
> people here will be biased towards Ruby, but that is fine: i want to 
> hear
> about it....


I'd rather suggest that you go the Ruby route because I think that you 
would experience a much smoother learning curve and a level of 
productivity that the other two can only dream of (...well, until you 
get into GUI stuff which is generally quicker in Java or C++ due to the 
nice IDEs available for each.  I haven't really been keeping up with 
Ruby IDEs, but I don't think one exists yet for GUI development). 
However, it seems to me that you're looking for the expressiveness of 
Ruby and the speed of C++.  Welcome to the club.  Strangely enough, 
Java's domain really is somewhere between each.  Plus, you'll never 
truly appreciate a language like Ruby until you deal with a more... 
verbose language such as Java.


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