[#223105] ruby programming best practice — "Shannon Fang" <xrfang@...>

As a dynamic language, Ruby is much more flexible and easier than other

18 messages 2006/11/01

[#223126] variable pointer — "akbarhome" <akbarhome@...>

@c = "donal"

17 messages 2006/11/01

[#223211] file size revisit — python152@...

Hi, folks

17 messages 2006/11/02

[#223299] Just a question to throw out there... — "Skotty" <shyguyfrenzy@...>

Another noobrube question.

23 messages 2006/11/02

[#223398] Output not clear — "Learning Ruby" <learningruby@...>

I am a newbie to Ruby and the output of the following program is not clear

14 messages 2006/11/03

[#223425] Bytecode Compiler (#100) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

27 messages 2006/11/03

[#223458] REXML ... performance & memory usage ... — Jeff Wood <jeff@...>

Wow ... I am trying to use REXML to parse through an 8.8Mb xml file ...

14 messages 2006/11/03

[#223653] Book wanted: Metaprogramming in Ruby — Jay Levitt <jay+news@...>

Now that Hal, David B, Curt, and others have some spare time:

25 messages 2006/11/06

[#223736] REXML — "pdg" <pgattphoto@...>

Hi All,

22 messages 2006/11/06

[#223831] the name of Matz — Byung-Hee HWANG <bh@...>

Hello,

51 messages 2006/11/07
[#223839] Re: [OT] the name of Matz — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2006/11/07

Hi,

[#224216] Re: [OT] the name of Matz — Byung-Hee HWANG <bh@...> 2006/11/09

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#223975] Re: [OT] the name of Matz — Devin Mullins <twifkak@...> 2006/11/08

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#224630] Re: the name of Matz — "Ryo" <furufuru@...> 2006/11/12

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#224645] Re: the name of Matz — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2006/11/12

On 11/12/06, Ryo <furufuru@ccsr.u-tokyo.ac.jp> wrote:

[#242731] Re: the name of Matz — Harry <ruby.hardware@...> 2007/03/09

> It might be fun though if you could give a pointer to the "correct"

[#223846] How to make a cycling counter from commandline? — "darenbell@..." <darenbell@...>

Hi, I'm looking for a way to implement this idea:

12 messages 2006/11/07

[#223930] Two way communication with the command shell (IO.popen?) — James Smith <jmdjmsmith@...>

19 messages 2006/11/08
[#223943] Re: Two way communication with the command shell (IO.popen?) — ara.t.howard@... 2006/11/08

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, James Smith wrote:

[#223997] Re: Two way communication with the command shell (IO.popen?) — James Smith <jmdjmsmith@...> 2006/11/08

unknown wrote:

[#224012] Re: Two way communication with the command shell (IO.popen?) — ara.t.howard@... 2006/11/08

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, James Smith wrote:

[#224327] Re: Two way communication with the command shell (IO.popen?) — James Smith <jmdjmsmith@...> 2006/11/10

unknown wrote:

[#224690] Re: testing whether a process has completed.. — James Smith <jmdjmsmith@...> 2006/11/12

OK, keeping it simple I am basically using the following code:

[#224691] Re: testing whether a process has completed.. — "Patrick Hurley" <phurley@...> 2006/11/12

On 11/12/06, James Smith <jmdjmsmith@msn.com> wrote:

[#223953] Why create web servers? — "CatLady []" <totalharmonicdistortion@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2006/11/08

[#224002] FastRI 0.1.0: faster, smarter RI docs for Ruby, DRb-enabled — Mauricio Fernandez <mfp@...>

FastRI 0.1.0: faster, smarter RI docs for Ruby, DRb-enabled

27 messages 2006/11/08

[#224013] #returning and #tap — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Had use for this today: #returning is a convenience method you'll find

57 messages 2006/11/08
[#225210] Re: #returning and #tap — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2006/11/15

On Nov 8, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Trans wrote:

[#225233] Re: #returning and #tap — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/11/16

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#225358] Re: #returning and #tap — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2006/11/16

On Nov 15, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#225370] Re: #returning and #tap — ara.t.howard@... 2006/11/16

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Eric Hodel wrote:

[#225382] Re: #returning and #tap — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/11/16

ara.t.howard@noaa.gov wrote:

[#225385] Re: #returning and #tap — dblack@... 2006/11/16

Hi --

[#225388] Re: #returning and #tap — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/11/16

dblack@wobblini.net wrote:

[#225393] Re: #returning and #tap — dblack@... 2006/11/16

Hi --

[#225399] Re: #returning and #tap — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/11/16

dblack@wobblini.net wrote:

[#225420] Re: #returning and #tap — dblack@... 2006/11/16

Hi --

[#225476] Re: #returning and #tap — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2006/11/17

On 11/17/06, dblack@wobblini.net <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#225488] Re: #returning and #tap — dblack@... 2006/11/17

Hi --

[#225494] Re: #returning and #tap — spooq <spoooq@...> 2006/11/17

I definitely think of it as tapping a phone line.

[#225495] Re: #returning and #tap — spooq <spoooq@...> 2006/11/17

Actually, how about giving the proc a copy of the object, rather than

[#224039] Proc as Observer — "Tim Pease" <tim.pease@...>

Working with an Observable object, I wanted to be able to add a Proc

20 messages 2006/11/08
[#224061] Re: Proc as Observer — "Trans" <transfire@...> 2006/11/08

[#224040] Simple Math Problem — Thom Loring <tloring@...>

Can anyone shed some light on a simple math problem I have encountered?

14 messages 2006/11/08

[#224087] The Ruby Way review on Slashdot — Timothy Hunter <TimHunter@...>

Whoo-hoo! My review of Hal Fulton's _The_Ruby_Way,_Second_Edition_ is on

17 messages 2006/11/08

[#224157] thousand ways to rome — Chris Mueller <damngoodcoffee@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2006/11/09

[#224246] Overwriting the Integer class for method succ! (instead of just succ) — "paul" <pjvleeuwen@...>

Hi all,

11 messages 2006/11/09

[#224331] Rails vs. Asp.Net politics — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...>

I have the deciding vote in a new (rather large) web app we need to

28 messages 2006/11/10

[#224352] VCR Program Manager (#101) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

13 messages 2006/11/10

[#224398] looking for some feedback about Certification — "pat eyler" <pat.eyler@...>

Aaah, nothing like a good controversial topic to stir up a holy war

38 messages 2006/11/10
[#224401] Re: looking for some feedback about Certification — Gustav Paul <gustav@...> 2006/11/10

pat eyler wrote:

[#224439] Re: looking for some feedback about Certification — dblack@... 2006/11/11

Hi --

[#224411] turn 0.1.0 Released — "Tim Pease" <tim.pease@...>

turn version 0.1.0 has been released!

18 messages 2006/11/10

[#224532] McGovern Likes JRuby... — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

I'm not sure how to feel about this one :)

26 messages 2006/11/11
[#224570] Re: McGovern Likes JRuby... — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/11/11

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#224574] Re: McGovern Likes JRuby... — David Vallner <david@...> 2006/11/11

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#224539] Ruby GUI with IDE — "Josh Mr." <kamipride102@...>

Hello all,

33 messages 2006/11/11
[#224543] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/11/11

Josh Mr. wrote:

[#224546] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — AliasX Neo <kamipride102@...> 2006/11/11

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#224554] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — David Vallner <david@...> 2006/11/11

AliasX Neo wrote:

[#224569] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/11/11

David Vallner wrote:

[#224577] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — Caleb Tennis <caleb@...> 2006/11/11

>>

[#224578] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — AliasX Neo <kamipride102@...> 2006/11/11

So I guess a better format for my original question should be:

[#224580] Re: Ruby GUI with IDE — David Vallner <david@...> 2006/11/11

AliasX Neo wrote:

[#224639] regular expression too big — Peter Schrammel <peter.schrammel@...>

Hi,

31 messages 2006/11/12

[#224665] Help convert a Perl user to the Ruby Way. — Sebastian Reid <seb@...>

Hi all.

13 messages 2006/11/12

[#224777] Nitro + Og 0.40.0 — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>

Hello everyone,

17 messages 2006/11/13

[#224817] directory_watcher 0.1.1 — "Tim Pease" <tim.pease@...>

A class for watching files within a directory and generating events

16 messages 2006/11/13
[#224838] Re: directory_watcher 0.1.1 — "Kenosis" <kenosis@...> 2006/11/13

[#224839] Re: directory_watcher 0.1.1 — "Tim Pease" <tim.pease@...> 2006/11/13

On 11/13/06, Kenosis <kenosis@gmail.com> wrote:

[#224933] ruby indentantion — Alfonso <euoar@...>

I have just started with ruby, and something that I have observed is

23 messages 2006/11/14

[#224949] Is 2.0 Integer or Float? — "S. Robert James" <srobertjames@...>

I'd like to be able to do:

18 messages 2006/11/14

[#224997] Assoc method on large array — "gregarican" <greg.kujawa@...>

I am trying to invoke the assoc method on a large array. It seems to

13 messages 2006/11/14

[#225069] Design problem with 'inject' — Gary Boone <dr@...>

20 messages 2006/11/15

[#225109] FastRI 0.2.0: full-text searching, smarter search strategies — Mauricio Fernandez <mfp@...>

FastRI is an alternative to the ri command-line tool. It is *much* faster, and

9 messages 2006/11/15

[#225179] *Fast* way to process large files line by line — Devesh Agrawal <dagrawal@...>

Hi Folks,

20 messages 2006/11/15

[#225288] Re: parse xml file, put results in mysql db — "seb@..." <seb@...>

--- Kathy Simmons <kathys39@hotmail.com> wrote:

15 messages 2006/11/16
[#225291] Re: parse xml file, put results in mysql db — Jon Egil Strand <jes@...> 2006/11/16

>

[#225296] Re: parse xml file, put results in mysql db — Mike Fletcher <lemurific+rforum@...> 2006/11/16

Jon Egil Strand wrote:

[#225330] Re: parse xml file, put results in mysql db — Kathy Simmons <kathys39@...> 2006/11/16

Here's the full code - I'm reading in nmap output in scanfile.xml and

[#225379] IHelp 0.4.0 - full text search — "Ilmari Heikkinen" <ilmari.heikkinen@...>

View and search object documentation from irb.

13 messages 2006/11/16
[#225383] Re: [ANN] IHelp 0.4.0 - full text search — Parragh Szabolcs <parragh@...> 2006/11/16

Ilmari Heikkinen 叝ta:

[#225398] Re: [ANN] IHelp 0.4.0 - full text search — "Ilmari Heikkinen" <ilmari.heikkinen@...> 2006/11/16

Hi,

[#225412] Re: [ANN] IHelp 0.4.0 - full text search — "Ilmari Heikkinen" <ilmari.heikkinen@...> 2006/11/16

> Thanks for noticing this, should be fixed in 0.4.1.

[#225470] Re: [ANN] IHelp 0.4.0 - full text search — Parragh Szabolcs <parragh@...> 2006/11/17

Ilmari Heikkinen 叝ta:

[#225512] Literate Ruby (#102) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

12 messages 2006/11/17

[#225547] ruby equivalent PHP function is_numeric? — Josselin <josselin@...>

After reading completely my Ruby book, I cannot find a function

15 messages 2006/11/17

[#225681] Ruby vs Java vs c++ — n/a <na@...>

hi, newbie so please be tolerant.... ;)

117 messages 2006/11/18

[#225754] Ruby screen scraping — Chris Gallagher <cgallagher@...>

Hi,

28 messages 2006/11/19

[#225909] Create array of hash values — David Lelong <drlelon@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2006/11/20

[#226023] Bug in ruby? — AliasX Neo <kamipride102@...>

Well, I've spent the last hour or so debugging one of the stupidest

31 messages 2006/11/21

[#226029] array question — Li Chen <chen_li3@...>

Hi all,

41 messages 2006/11/21
[#226031] Re: array question — "Wilson Bilkovich" <wilsonb@...> 2006/11/21

On 11/20/06, Li Chen <chen_li3@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#226120] Hpricot/Rubyful Soup comparison — Wes Gamble <weyus@...>

Has anyone done a head to head comparison of Hpricot and Rubyful Soup

19 messages 2006/11/21

[#226168] New RCRchive, including new process — dblack@...

Hi everyone --

35 messages 2006/11/22

[#226210] invoke system command from within a method — Moritz Reiter <mreiter@...>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

11 messages 2006/11/22

[#226228] how do I contribute to Ruby? — "Giles Bowkett" <gilesb@...>

check this out, this is the whiniest change ever, but what I want is

15 messages 2006/11/22

[#226262] Rubyish inst.var initializations — "Victor \"Zverok\" Shepelev" <vshepelev@...>

Hi all.

12 messages 2006/11/23

[#226263] Compare Array Values? — "Daniel N" <has.sox@...>

I want to check to see if two arrays contain the same values.

30 messages 2006/11/23

[#226388] Anyone else getting weird flickr errors? — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...>

When I post to RubyTalk, I've been getting a 'your photo upload

14 messages 2006/11/24

[#226484] Is there a simply way to get every method log itself before running? — "Richard" <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2006/11/24

[#226537] DictionaryMatcher (#103) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

18 messages 2006/11/24

[#226553] Ruby/Python/REXX as a MUCK scripting language — Tony Belding <zobeid@...>

I'm interested in using an off-the-shelf interpreted language as a

18 messages 2006/11/25

[#226608] coding practise — sempsteen <sempsteen@...>

Hi all,

23 messages 2006/11/25

[#226707] Ruby/Rails on Gumstix — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

For the past couple of weeks, I've been playing around with Ruby on a

16 messages 2006/11/26
[#226751] Re: Ruby/Rails on Gumstix — "Giles Bowkett" <gilesb@...> 2006/11/26

On 11/25/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#226709] Timestamp — Srinivas Sa <sr.sakhamuri@...>

How do i add two time stamps

23 messages 2006/11/26

[#226731] find index of first non zeo value in array — Josselin <josselin@...>

with :

24 messages 2006/11/26
[#226733] Re: find index of first non zeo value in array — Olivier <o.renaud@...> 2006/11/26

Le dimanche 26 novembre 2006 15:00, Josselin a 馗rit

[#226783] Two Advanced Ruby Performance Questions — Sunny Hirai <sunny@...>

First, I am a Ruby newbie but am an experienced developer of highly

27 messages 2006/11/26
[#226816] Re: Two Advanced Ruby Performance Questions — Edwin Fine <efine145-nospam01@...> 2006/11/26

This post may be stating the obvious, but here goes anyway... I hope I

[#226792] Extremely Noobish Documentation Question — Paco Paco <mepaco@...>

Hello all,

16 messages 2006/11/26

[#226806] Re: ruby and list comprehension — James Cunningham <jameshcunningham@...>

On 2006-11-25 18:47:26 -0500, Brad Tilley <rtilley@vt.edu> said:

12 messages 2006/11/26

[#227012] Is ruby a viable corporate alternative? — "Mr P" <MisterPerl@...>

Our team uses Perl for almost 100% of our projects, as we have for the

27 messages 2006/11/28

[#227041] FileUtils.touch doesn't work — Jeff Toth <jeff@...>

Why won't Ruby just install from the port? I don't know what Ruby is,

12 messages 2006/11/28

[#227108] Simple screen scraper using scrAPI — "doog" <doog@...>

I'm a Ruby novice. Does anyone have an example of a simple screen

14 messages 2006/11/28

[#227160] cidr.rb: port of Perl's Net::CIDR v0.11 available — Jos Backus <jos@...>

Module:

17 messages 2006/11/29

[#227198] Splitting a CSV file into 40,000 line chunks — Drew Olson <olsonas@...>

All -

40 messages 2006/11/29
[#227243] Re: Splitting a CSV file into 40,000 line chunks — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2006/11/29

On Nov 29, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Drew Olson wrote:

[#227255] Re: Splitting a CSV file into 40,000 line chunks — Drew Olson <olsonas@...> 2006/11/29

Thanks for all the responses. As noted in a post above, I am trying to

[#227219] Need a range, but not getting it. . . . — Peter Bailey <pbailey@...>

Hello,

33 messages 2006/11/29

[#227282] creating directory "http://example.com" — Comfort Eagle <steve@...>

How do I create a directory 'http://example.com' without it getting

16 messages 2006/11/29

[#227302] Wrong results using named arguments — "Jason Vogel" <jasonvogel@...>

Source:

12 messages 2006/11/29

[#227336] Overwhelmed by emails — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com>

This list has way too many messages for the amount of free time I have. Does

12 messages 2006/11/30

[#227388] Timers, scheduling and Ruby — Damphyr <damphyr@...>

Ok, since the original post migh just appear in a month's time, lets

24 messages 2006/11/30
[#227404] Re: Timers, scheduling and Ruby — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2006/11/30

On Nov 30, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Damphyr wrote:

[#227414] Re: Timers, scheduling and Ruby — ara.t.howard@... 2006/11/30

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#227416] Re: Timers, scheduling and Ruby — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2006/11/30

On Nov 30, 2006, at 11:47 AM, ara.t.howard@noaa.gov wrote:

[#227461] Re: Timers, scheduling and Ruby — ara.t.howard@... 2006/11/30

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#227402] Segmentation fault, proc, eval, long string — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...>

Hi,

27 messages 2006/11/30
[#227415] Re: Segmentation fault, proc, eval, long string [Reproduced] — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2006/11/30

A little more on this...

[#227569] Re: Segmentation fault, proc, eval, long string [Reproduced] — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2006/12/01

Bob Hutchison schrieb:

[#227426] simple question, looping through each character in a string — "warhero" <beingthexemplarylists@...>

how can I accomplish something like this in ruby:

17 messages 2006/11/30
[#227438] Re: simple question, looping through each character in a string — dblack@... 2006/11/30

Hi --

[#227458] Wisdom of including Rakefile in releases — "Trans" <transfire@...>

I was poking around in the /usr/lib/ruby/gems directory today and

13 messages 2006/11/30

Re: McGovern Likes JRuby...

From: Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>
Date: 2006-11-12 16:39:36 UTC
List: ruby-talk #224655
Talk about trolling... :)

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Well, the original poster wanted jRuby to be the one true way. I was 
> simply saying that wasn't possible; even Sun couldn't do it. I too doubt 
> if they would try. But Sun is a big enough company to try things that 
> might not necessarily work.
> 
> The time of Java hype marketing is past? Maybe, but the language seems 
> to be an 800-pound gorilla in some peoples' minds. I can't imagine Sun 
> *not* doing everything they can to insure that jRuby succeeds and wins 
> business for Sun.

JRuby could only become the "one true way" if the community decided to 
move that direction. I have no desire to make that happen; I just want 
to make JRuby as good as possible. If the end result is what ALL 
Rubyists actually want out of Ruby, great. I don't expect that will 
happen. However I know it will be the right answer for a growing number 
of Rubyists, and certainly the right answer for Ruby in a Java world.

I think the best answer is for Rubyists to avoid thinking about JRuby in 
terms of Java. JRuby is Ruby, with a different VM underneath. If you 
could have Ruby on VM X, where X had full native threading, advanced 
garbage collection and memory management, fast synchronous and 
asynchronous IO, JITing to native code, runtime optimization, and 
built-in support for dynlangs, wouldn't you want that?

That's the JVM.

> Again, *I* don't support dropping other implementations of Ruby. If 
> nothing else, Microsoft will make at least one release of at least one 
> Ruby implementation. And I'm sure Matz and Koichi will continue leading 
> the community path.

The community path doesn't have to exclude paid developers from 
Microsoft or Sun. I am as much a part of the community as you are.

> What I'm *not* sure about is whether Rubinius  will flourish. Cardinal 
> seems pretty much dead, but I think there's a lot of energy behind 
> Rubinius.

There's energy, but not numbers. Rubinius is cool, no doubt about it...I 
just hope more folks step up to the plate to help contribute time and 
effort into it.

Cardinal's only problem is that it suffers from Parrot.

> But we're talking about two different things here -- a community and 
> commercial enterprises. The community can afford to strive for 
> perfection. Commercial enterprises can not. They must *satisfice*, not 
> optimize!

And perhaps once JRuby runs Rails perfectly, or exceeds YARV 
performance, or this or that, we'll be moved on to other projects. But 
there's a lot of potential in sticking with JRuby for the long haul. I 
realize that, and Sun realizes that. You can FUD all you like, but 
believe me: Sun is serious about this stuff.

> Still, you have to acknowledge that jRuby is now a commercial project 
> funded by a major hardware and software vendor. That's going to draw 
> opinions and rants and wishful thinking and love and hate and arguments 
> and FUD. I'm surprised someone from Microsoft hasn't attacked it 
> publicly yet.

By that logic, all the Apache projects are commercial projects as well, 
since there are full-time folks from various companies working on them. 
The same logic could extend to C Ruby, since Matz and Koichi are paid to 
work on it. Obviously wrong.

And what exactly would MS attack? A five-year-old open-source 
implementation of Ruby for the JVM, simply because Sun hired two guys to 
help improve it and bring it to a 1.0 release?

> jRuby is an investment. Only time will tell whether that investment will 
> pay off and what the payoffs will be. I don't know enough about the Java 
> runtime (or the CLR or Parrot, for that matter) to predict success or 
> failure. I'm personally much more interested in the open source 
> community efforts. There are many more opportunities for me to create 
> signal there than there are in two corporations, neither of which pays 
> me a dime. :)

Ola already mentioned that JRuby is as open-source and community-driven 
as anything. There's a growing community of contributors, Ola is part of 
the core team, and we're going to add more non-Sun committers soon. 
Claiming that JRuby is somehow less open or less communal than C Ruby is 
pretty silly.

-- 
Charles Oliver Nutter, JRuby Core Developer
Blogging on Ruby and Java @ headius.blogspot.com
Help spec out Ruby today! @ www.headius.com/rubyspec
headius@headius.com -- charles.nutter@sun.com

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