From: "juan pedro meriño" <juapdiaz@...>
Date: 2006-11-12T01:15:19+09:00
Subject: Re: Rails vs. Asp.Net politics

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the better is rubby that asp.net

2006/11/11, Nithia Govender <nithiaji@guruhut.com>:
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> On 11 Nov 2006, at 00:54, Leslie Viljoen wrote:
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> > On 11/10/06, Nithia Govender <nithiaji@guruhut.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10 Nov 2006, at 14:23, Leslie Viljoen wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I think so, although in the backwater of South Africa, very few
> >> people
> >> > have ever heard of Ruby or Rails! I have yet to see a single
> >> book here
> >> > on either subject.
> >>
> >> All I can say is that you're not looking at my bookshelf :) From
> >> where I sit in my South African backwater of a study, I see two Ruby
> >> books, plus a PDF or two. In my work environment, most people have
> >> heard of Ruby and Rails. Most view Rails with a certain scepticism,
> >> especially given that we do most of our work in Java. Looking at the
> >> scary complexity of many of the apps we produce for our customers, I
> >> can see why Rails, with it's "constraints are good" philosophy, may
> >> not be the best framework for every Web app. I must admit that I
> >> haven't done much work in Rails, but for me Ruby itself is a
> >> beautiful, elegant language that is a joy to program in.
> >
> > Wow, I have searched this backwater as best as I could to find other
> > Ruby programmers here! I also search every bookstore I go into for
> > Ruby books - where did you get them? I have many, but all ordered from
> > overseas.
> >
> > Would you agree with the idea that Ruby/Rails on your CV might be
> > better than ASP.NET (if you already have C# there) - in South Africa?
> >
> > Also, where do you work? Guruhut.com doesn't resolve to a www server
> > right now...
> >
>
> I'm mostly a Java programmer (yes, I know, the Dark Side :), but I
> have enjoyed Ruby since I first discovered it a few years ago. I
> would think that Ruby/Rails on your CV (if you already have C#) would
> be a good thing. It's bound to get going here eventually, even though
> the larger South African corporations all seem to have sold their
> souls to either Microsoft or IBM.
>
> As for books, I almost always order programming books from Amazon or
> the like. Bookstore here seem incapable of carrying anything more
> substantial than "The Dummies Guide to X", "Teach Yourself Y in 21
> Days" and an infinite number of titles having something to do with MS
> Office. And don't get me started on the insane markups on technical
> books. A book that costs $30 on Amazon is likely to set you back R500
> or so in a local bookstore. Even assuming an exchange rate of R8 to
> the dollar, that's still twice what you should be paying.
>
> Sorry about the Web site issue. We're busy moving servers, so the DNS
> entries may be still a little messed up. www.guruhut.co.za should
> resolve correctly.
>
> Later
> N
>
>

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