From: Leslie Viljoen <leslieviljoen@...>
Date: 2006-11-11T07:54:50+09:00
Subject: Re: Rails vs. Asp.Net politics

On 11/10/06, Nithia Govender <nithiaji@guruhut.com> wrote:
>
> On 10 Nov 2006, at 14:23, Leslie Viljoen wrote:
>
> > On 11/10/06, Peter Hickman <peter@semantico.com> wrote:
> >> Leslie Viljoen wrote:
> >> > I have the deciding vote in a new (rather large) web app we need to
> >> > develop. I am experienced in Rails, but the other 2 guys on the
> >> team
> >> > know only C# and very basic Ruby. About 25% of the app could
> >> benefit
> >> > from existing classes written in C#.
> >>
> >> Well you could sell it as a good CV move for them. In the end they
> >> will
> >> know C# and Ruby and Rails. Got to be a good thing if they ever
> >> want to
> >> move.
> >>
> >> If you already have C# I'm not too sure of the value of adding
> >> ASP.NET
> >> to your CV.
> >
> > I think so, although in the backwater of South Africa, very few people
> > have ever heard of Ruby or Rails! I have yet to see a single book here
> > on either subject.
>
> All I can say is that you're not looking at my bookshelf :) From
> where I sit in my South African backwater of a study, I see two Ruby
> books, plus a PDF or two. In my work environment, most people have
> heard of Ruby and Rails. Most view Rails with a certain scepticism,
> especially given that we do most of our work in Java. Looking at the
> scary complexity of many of the apps we produce for our customers, I
> can see why Rails, with it's "constraints are good" philosophy, may
> not be the best framework for every Web app. I must admit that I
> haven't done much work in Rails, but for me Ruby itself is a
> beautiful, elegant language that is a joy to program in.

Wow, I have searched this backwater as best as I could to find other
Ruby programmers here! I also search every bookstore I go into for
Ruby books - where did you get them? I have many, but all ordered from
overseas.

Would you agree with the idea that Ruby/Rails on your CV might be
better than ASP.NET (if you already have C# there) - in South Africa?

Also, where do you work? Guruhut.com doesn't resolve to a www server
right now...