From: Rick DeNatale Date: 2006-10-25T08:23:34+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT:usage of uml] On 10/22/06, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:14:09AM +0900, David Vallner wrote: > > Chris Carter wrote: > > > Our team does believe in Agile and XP > > > design concepts, so we do a lot of testing, and speccing, which we feel > > > better documents our code than UML. > > > > And here I thought programming was an engineering discipline, and not a > > religious practice. (If you confuse those two, Picocontainer happens. > > /me ducks rotten vegetables.) > > I always found the following quite an interesting read: > > http://starshine.org/xteddy/thomas/~n6tadam/CodeAsDesign.pdf > Hmm, I'm having a deja-vu. I organized a panel discussion at OOPSLA '93 on "The Role of Methods and CASE in OO Software Development" http://www.math.utah.edu/ftp/pub/tex/bib/idx/sigplan1990/27/10/145-145.html Grady Booch was on the panel, this was IIRC before the three amigos and the convergence on UML. Dave Thomas* took the position that the best possible CASE tool was a code browser. * A different one, the guy who started Object Technology International, now enjoying life in the Caribean after making his fortune selling Smalltalk and OTI to IBM. -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/