From: David Vallner <david@...>
Date: 2006-09-13T10:29:19+09:00
Subject: Re: Joel Spolsky on languages for web programmingr

Phlip wrote:
> You snipped the context. I suspect it said Ruby is a platform like .NET, so 
> Rails is a framework like ASP.NET.
> 

Quoting Kate Rhodes:

   You can't compare .net and Rails. It's like comparing the JVM or
   Parrot and Rails. It makes no sense.

   .NET and the JVM and Parrot are just virtual machines that by themself
   contribute absolutely nothing to the productivity of a web developer.

After being corrected on the above, the next argument was just that you 
can't write a web application in .NET.

The mention of how (only) a Django / TurboGears app on IronPython would 
be a webapp running on .NET, and even then wouldn't be a .NET webapp 
made me presume the claim was that .NET flat out lacks the features to 
write a webapp, as did the claims that .NET by itself won't increase 
your productivity.

My personal guess is that Kate is ignorant of ASP.NET generally, of how 
it would relate to Rails in purpose more so.

> "I distort your argument, therefor it's wrong" is not a valid debate 
> technique.
> 

Except I didn't distort it since there was no relevant argument stated. 
Feel free to use the list archive to see for yourself.

David Vallner