From: Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>
Date: 2006-09-12T07:09:04+09:00
Subject: Re: Joel Spolsky on languages for web programming

On 9/9/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> 1. I don't consider a 4X speed improvement on a matrix multiply and
> inverse, which is what I got with YARV over Ruby 1.8.5, "premature
> optimization".
>
> 2. If the bottleneck is the database, why does Rails frown on stored
> procedures, preferring instead to do everything in the ActiveRecord ORM?

It's an Opinion. A potentially valid one, but just an Opinion.

Frankly, DHH has made a number of mistakes in his Opinions on what a
database should do. Some of these are worse than others -- encoding
MySQL semantics into AR behaviour (when MySQL is *not* doing the right
thing by any measure) is a good one. But there's nothing *inherently*
wrong with stored procedures or triggers. There's good reasons for
having them and using them; there's good reasons for not using them
even if they are available (they weren't available for MySQL for a
long time, IIRC).

Certain things -- like audit logging -- I *only* want done with
database triggers.

-austin
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