From: Paul Lynch Date: 2006-09-12T06:42:39+09:00 Subject: Re: Real World Scalability and Ruby - Top 20 On 11 Sep 2006, at 20:06, Robert Dober wrote: > On 9/10/06, Paul Lynch wrote: >> >> On 10 Sep 2006, at 22:15, Robert Dober wrote: >> >> > I had the very faint hope that a free version of Webobjects was >> > used, >> > these are still in Objective-C, sorry if I wasted your time, I >> > tried to pay >> > you back with the URIs for the two Objective-C versions, but just >> > cannot get >> > my hands on my last Linux-Mag France. >> > One obviously is GNU-Step, but the other...., sorry :( >> >> There is no 'free' version of ObjC WebObjects; GNUstep is not >> WebObjects. There are some OSS implementations based on ObjC, with >> and without GNUstep, but nothing that is feature complete and >> compatible. >> >> The current version of WebObjects (Java) is 'free', as it comes with >> XCode, but is not Open Source. >> >> Just found it - my Linux Mag-, yep it is quite old (June 2004) but >> it is > talking about NGObjWeb and there is GNUstepWeb (sorry for having been > inprecise), but all references seem quite old (<= 2004) so there > probably is > no Objective-C implementation of WebObjects anymore. at least none > useful. > SKYRIX (who was developpong NGObjWeb) seems to be more concentrated on > propriatary SW now. > What a pitty, sorry for the OT noise. (Well the whole thread is > anyway ;) The closest thing I am aware of is SOPE (http:// sope.opengroupware.org/index.html), which is a superset of NGObjWeb. This is what I was referring to as "not very compatible" with WebObjects - mostly because the database layer is rather different, but other reasons apply as well; SOPE is still active. It is just that Skyrix split SOPE into the opengroupware site. To put it into perspective, you might think that SOPE is to WebObjects as Rails without ActiveRecord is to full Rails. Kinda. The last news post at www.gnustepweb.org was dated 2003 :(. Paul