From: Robert Dober Date: 2006-09-12T04:06:24+09:00 Subject: Re: Real World Scalability and Ruby - Top 20 ------=_Part_5074_7367935.1158001559099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 9/10/06, Paul Lynch wrote: > > > On 10 Sep 2006, at 22:15, Robert Dober wrote: > > > On 9/10/06, Logan Capaldo wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 05:08:06AM +0900, Robert Dober wrote: > >> > On 9/10/06, Tim Smith wrote: > >> [snip the actual conversation] > >> > > > >> > >Worse, it misses sites like the iTunes Music Store completely, > >> which is > >> > >a huge enterprise application. iTMS is a Webobjects > >> application, so is > >> > >running on J2EE. > >> > > >> > You mean Objective-C for sure > >> > >> Nope, WebObjects was long ago converted to Java. > >> Check out the site: http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ > > > > I had the very faint hope that a free version of Webobjects was > > used, > > these are still in Objective-C, sorry if I wasted your time, I > > tried to pay > > you back with the URIs for the two Objective-C versions, but just > > cannot get > > my hands on my last Linux-Mag France. > > One obviously is GNU-Step, but the other...., sorry :( > > iTMS/AppleStore/.Mac was written in WebObjects, right - and > originally in the Objective C version. WebObjects converted to Java > (not J2EE) years ago, although some users continue to run the ObjC > version of WebObjects, because of philosophical objections to Java > (nothing new there). > > I believe, but can't confirm, that Apple's internal WebObjects apps > were converted to the Java version of WebObjects. > > There is no 'free' version of ObjC WebObjects; GNUstep is not > WebObjects. There are some OSS implementations based on ObjC, with > and without GNUstep, but nothing that is feature complete and > compatible. > > The current version of WebObjects (Java) is 'free', as it comes with > XCode, but is not Open Source. > > Paul > > Just found it - my Linux Mag-, yep it is quite old (June 2004) but it is talking about NGObjWeb and there is GNUstepWeb (sorry for having been inprecise), but all references seem quite old (<=3D 2004) so there probably= is no Objective-C implementation of WebObjects anymore. at least none useful. SKYRIX (who was developpong NGObjWeb) seems to be more concentrated on propriatary SW now. What a pitty, sorry for the OT noise. (Well the whole thread is anyway ;) Cheers Robert --=20 Deux choses sont infinies : l'univers et la b=EAtise humaine ; en ce qui concerne l'univers, je n'en ai pas acquis la certitude absolue. - Albert Einstein ------=_Part_5074_7367935.1158001559099--