From: Robert Dober <robert.dober@...>
Date: 2006-09-10T05:09:43+09:00
Subject: Re: DRAW 1280, 1024

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On 9/9/06, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 06:46:51PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
> >
> > Chad
> > maybe you remember the post where I was discarding D and you kind of
> made me
> > think  about it twice. This is a good time to come back [ I consider
> this
> > group flexible enough not to be bothered by slighly off topic posts but
> feel
> > free to tell me if I am wrong ] to you on this point.
> > I do not regret at all looking at D a second time and it indeed seems a
> very
> > nice thing to have in your toolbox!!!.
> > So why not toss in the links for UCBLogo?
> > I feel it might be of  interest for more folks than just OP and myself.
> > If you feel differently about it could you reply to me offlist?
> > Thx in advance
>
> Good point(s).  I'll post links here, at least:
>
> central UCBLogo resources page:
>   http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/logo.html
>
> Computer Science Logo Style
> Volume 1: Symbolic Computing
>   http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v1-toc2.html
>
> Computer Science Logo Style
> Volume 2: Advanced Techniques
>   http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v2-toc2.html
>
> Computer Science Logo Style
> Volume 3: Beyond Programming
>   http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v3-toc2.html
>
> At least some Linux distributions (Debian included) provide UCBLogo
> packages in their software archives.  I was delighted to find that I
> could install UCBLogo on my Debian systems by typing "apt-get install
> ucblogo" (without the quotes) into a root shell.  Quite convenient.
>
> Logo has been called the "Lisp without parentheses", and that's pretty
> much what it is.  Most implementations have been somewhat neutered in
> the creators' zeal for producing a language implementation that is
> friendly to young students, but UCBLogo is not of that ilk -- it goes so
> far as to include support for Lisp macros (though I haven't personally
> explored their use enough to be able to make a determination about how
> well they're supported, the syntax and use seems quite similar to that
> of ANSI Common Lisp).
>
> It's an open source distribution of Logo created by a Berkeley
> professor, Bryan Harvey, who is also the author of the above-mentioned
> university computer science textbooks that make use of UCBLogo as the
> example language.  I've found the books to be well-written (so far -- I
> have been often and thoroughly distracted by the demands of other
> languages in my life, alas), and the language absurdly easy to learn.
> It has been the single biggest factor in my growing appreciation for
> arithmetic prefix notation, and functional syntax in general, so far.
>
> Suddenly, I'm considering creating a mailing list . . . damn.  Like I
> don't have enough on my plate already.


Than ty even more for having taken the time ;)
Cheers
Robert

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> CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
> "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to
> build programs out of the wrong concepts." - Paul Graham
>
>


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