From: Chad Perrin Date: 2006-09-04T19:32:07+09:00 Subject: Re: Joel Spolsky on languages for web programming On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 01:00:07PM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > Frankly, iptables is easier to learn effectively than most proprietary > > firewalls -- and then there's stuff like IPCop, which makes things even > > easier. > > > When there are certified iptables engineers, I'll trust my business to > them. Until then, I'm sticking with Cisco and certified Cisco engineers. > When you post a job application for a sysadmin position, you're going to > get at least ten times as many applicants as you need, so you can afford > to *insist* that they be certified by Cisco, Microsoft or Red Hat as > appropriate. As someone with a combination of college, trade school, on-the-job, and purely autodidactic education, with several certifications of my own, my experience is that all certificiations really prove is A) a certain minimum standard of test-taking competence that can be sized up within five minutes of meeting someone anyway and B) a certain amount of money invested in professional advancement. . . . with the exception that some certifications require certain resume bullet-points before one is allowed to take the certification exam in question (CISSP comes to mind). Considering one doesn't require a certification to determine whether someone has such resume bullet-points, however, that seems irrelevant. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] unix virus: If you're using a unixlike OS, please forward this to 20 others and erase your system partition.