From: Matt Todd Date: 2006-09-01T14:14:04+09:00 Subject: Re: Pros/Cons of Turbogears/Rails? > By the way, we've yet to hear your opinion on Python and TurboGears... Don't bother... it's probably not mature: how many 13-year-olds do you know that are? ;) Maybe we should just stick to assembly, because that's seriously the only thing that is fast and mature. Oh wait... hell no. Anyways, I want to take this opportunity to refocus the discussion on _relative_ maturity: I believe the OP was asking about which of the _TWO_ options were more mature, Ruby/Rails or Python/TurboGears. fuzzylollipop: you might want to get the fuzz off your lollipop and realize that if the internet is nothing but edge cases, that means that the internet _has_ no edge cases. That's how edge cases work: they are the unusual, highly selective cases, on the edge of everything else. And, yes, I'd dare say that Ruby would be a great option for most of the non-edge cases, and even a good deal of the edge cases too! So stick that fuzz on your lollipop and suck it ;) M.T.