From: Charles O Nutter <headius@...>
Date: 2006-08-28T06:36:01+09:00
Subject: Re: Why Ruby does not nead an ide

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On 8/27/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
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> Uh yeah ... Eclipse is a Java IDE. As I noted elsewhere, "xemacs-sumo"
> is also huge. And also as I noted elsewhere, I don't use Emacs or XEmacs.


You missed my point entirely. And it's great you're able to use vi or ed or
whatever other minimalist environment to do whatever you do. If I choose to
use a nailgun to build a house and you choose to use a hammer, both
approaches are valid.

I think Gentoo does have a pre-built Eclipse, though I think it's only 3.2.


You didn't measure that, you measured the contrived case of building Eclipse
from scratch, which isn't useful. How much does it take to build, say,
Mozilla from scratch? A lot.

Well, since you're a Java developer, what is your reaction to
>
> "OK -- here's Rails. You don't need any of that junk.
> Just open up a couple of konsole or xterm or cmd windows and a browser,
> edit a couple of config files and Ruby scripts in vi or emacs or
> notepad, and you're on the air!"  :)


Valid and correct. RadRails is overkill for folks that don't have need of
Eclipse's other features, but it doesn't mean that a Rails IDE wouldn't be
useful. If a bunch of editors and terminals works well enough for you, so be
it. Others will have their own needs. Neither camp is "right". Black and
white, meet grey.

"Oh yeah ... We don't use ant, we use rake. We don't use junit ..."
>

I like Rake better. One of my pet projects is to create rake tasks to work
in concert with JRuby as a replacement for Ant. And JUnit is no more
complicated than test/unit. There are many tools for the job. People should
use what works best for their own purposes. This is why I work on JRuby,
because I believe the Java world needs Ruby and apps it has spawned to
continue innovating.

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