From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" Date: 2006-08-28T03:28:47+09:00 Subject: Re: Why Ruby does not nead an ide Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 08:05:19PM +0900, Jeremy Henty wrote: >> On 2006-08-27, David Vallner wrote: >>> Charles O Nutter wrote: >>>> I'm glad I'm not the only one tired of hearing Emacs users belittle >>>> IDE users, as though they're running any closer to bare metal. >>> Now this is one phenomenon I never understood. Why is that a good >>> thing?! >> Some people feel more secure if they're closer to the foundations. >> You can see them in swimming pools, staying in the shallow end so they >> can keep a foot on the bottom. > > It's especially fun when someone using Esc+Meta+Alt+Ctrl+Shift makes fun > of GUI IDE users for the bloat of their software, then turns around and > declares the superiority of their own choice in comparison to Vim. > > cake || eat > Uh ... cake || eat? That's an *inclusive* or, isn't it? :) Yeah ... having just made fun of Eclipse and admitting that I *should* learn Emacs to be a "real programmer" but haven't moved beyond "vim" because of 20 plus years of muscle memory, I wonder if I'm the pot or the kettle. :) I wonder if there's anything -- an OS, a language, an editor, a programming philosophy -- for which we could get *everyone* on this list to say, " sucks!"