From: Alex Young <alex@...>
Date: 2006-08-27T22:07:13+09:00
Subject: Re: Why Ruby does not nead an ide

David Vallner wrote:
> Just how often do you edit text files of insane sizes again? 
Actually, I get bitten by this at least every week, but the other way 
around - I get some generated XML files that have stupidly long lines, 
and they hang Vim - at least on Windows.  I can't always wrap the lines 
with fmt, either - that can break the data.

> And... To save and quit, vim is ESC : w g - five keypresses. 
<ESC>:x, actually.  But who's counting :-)

> With the 
> shift key having to be held down too - if running in console mode, I 
> doubt it's possible to detect standalone modifier keypresses. Emacs is 
> C-x C-c Space Space (for one buffer) - siz keypresses. ZOMG 
> FINGERSTRAIN! (Muah.)
Emacs broke my wrists.  Actually, that's not fair - emacs, non-ergonomic 
keyboards, and a requirement to be able to get set up and productive 
quickly on a fresh box broke my wrists.  Vim fits me better out of the 
box than emacs now.

> (the vim scripting language is rather basic and would probably 
> hit a complexity wall with some problems)
...which is where the Ruby interface comes in handy :-)

> So... Cut out the editor trolling, neither side has real arguments 
> anyway, just different needs that the editors satisfy in different 
> measures.
Agreed.  If there wasn't a market for both, one or the other would have 
died out by now.

-- 
Alex