From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" Date: 2006-08-08T22:44:12+09:00 Subject: Re: the perens in lisp dilects is there for a reson... macros. Jeremy Tregunna wrote: > > Le 06-08-08 � 01:37, Francis Cianfrocca a �crit : > >>> >>> The first release date of the Java language white paper was somewhere >>> in 1994, so you might think Ruby predates Java, but in fact: >>> >>> * the development of the Java language (formerly named Oak language) >>> started in 1991, if I remember correctly. >>> * the first public release of Ruby was December 1995. >>> >>> As a conclusion, Java is slightly older than Ruby. >>> >>> matz. >> >> If one considers the appearance of the famous Dr. Dobbs article to be >> the >> "public release" of Java, it appeared in May 1995. Predates Ruby's >> public >> release but not by much. > > Does it *really* matter which came first? Yes.