From: Jeremy Tregunna Date: 2006-08-08T15:25:45+09:00 Subject: Re: the perens in lisp dilects is there for a reson... macros. Le 06-08-08 � 01:37, Francis Cianfrocca a �crit : >> >> The first release date of the Java language white paper was somewhere >> in 1994, so you might think Ruby predates Java, but in fact: >> >> * the development of the Java language (formerly named Oak >> language) >> started in 1991, if I remember correctly. >> * the first public release of Ruby was December 1995. >> >> As a conclusion, Java is slightly older than Ruby. >> >> matz. > > If one considers the appearance of the famous Dr. Dobbs article to > be the > "public release" of Java, it appeared in May 1995. Predates Ruby's > public > release but not by much. Does it *really* matter which came first? -- Jeremy Tregunna jtregunna@blurgle.ca "One serious obstacle to the adoption of good programming languages is the notion that everything has to be sacrificed for speed. In computer languages as in life, speed kills." -- Mike Vanier