From: Chad Perrin Date: 2006-08-05T15:54:27+09:00 Subject: Re: the perens in lisp dilects is there for a reson... macros. The parentheses are not strictly necessary for macros. They're just the traditional LIspy way to do it. For instance, this is from UCBLogo's help documentation (I copied the first screenful from a terminal emulator): .MACRO procname :input1 :input2 ... (special form) .DEFMACRO procname text A macro is a special kind of procedure whose output is evaluated as Logo instructions in the context of the macro's caller. .MACRO is exactly like TO except that the new procedure becomes a macro; .DEFMACRO is exactly like DEFINE with the same exception. Macros are useful for inventing new control structures comparable to REPEAT, IF, and so on. Such control structures can almost, but not quite, be duplicated by ordinary Logo procedures. For example, here is an ordinary procedure version of REPEAT: to my.repeat :num :instructions if :num=0 [stop] run :instructions my.repeat :num-1 :instructions end This version works fine for most purposes, e.g., my.repeat 5 [print "hello] But it doesn't work if the instructions to be carried out include OUTPUT, STOP, or LOCAL. For example, consider this procedure: to example print [Guess my secret word. You get three guesses.] repeat 3 [type "|?? | ~ if readword = "secret [pr "Right! stop]] print [Sorry, the word was "secret"!] end This procedure works as written, but if MY.REPEAT is used instead of REPEAT, it won't work because the STOP will stop MY.REPEAT instead of stopping EXAMPLE as desired. The solution is to make MY.REPEAT a macro. Instead of actually carrying out the computation, a macro must return a list containing Logo instructions. The contents of that list are evaluated as if they appeared in place of the call to the macro. Here's a macro version of REPEAT: -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] "It's just incredible that a trillion-synapse computer could actually spend Saturday afternoon watching a football game." - Marvin Minsky