From: Chad Perrin Date: 2006-08-02T04:28:52+09:00 Subject: Re: I thought this was the one that worked? On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 04:10:21AM +0900, Chad Perrin wrote: > > I don't. A closure is a closure whether you use it or not, just as a > remote control for the TV is a remote control for the TV whether you use > it or not. What's actually relevant to the discussion is more like the > question of whether a remote control for the TV is still a remote > control for the TV if it was built with no TV on which it could operate. Okay, that wasn't quite right, either. It's more like this: Is a remote control for the TV still a remote control for the TV if the TV cannot turn on or off, has only one volume setting, and has only one channel, and if the remote has no buttons for sending any signals to the TV, but the remote still has a transmitter and the TV still has a receiver? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." - McCloctnick the Lucid