From: Charles O Nutter Date: 2006-07-29T04:42:47+09:00 Subject: Re: state of unicode support ------=_Part_54081_26017078.1154115762568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/28/06, Gregory Brown wrote: > > On 7/28/06, Charles O Nutter wrote: > > Oh come on, you don't want to read all those bazillion emails to get the > > bottom line? :) > > > > Seriously though y'all, isn't there a nice, short FAQ out there > somewhere? I > > haven't been able to find one. There must be something, right? > > Lest we start another flamewar on Unicode, can we please, please, > pretty please remember MINASWAN? > > I'm really getting tired of seeing all these sarcastic posts and also > personal attacks on this list. I barely read RubyTalk anymore because > of it, and it makes me sad because I really do love this list, and > many of the people on it. This wasn't intended to be sarcastic, honestly! I didn't get the answer I was hoping for out of the last thread, and if anyone else comes in to ask the same question again there's still not a very good answer. I just hoped there might be a one-page FAQ that describes the various ways to do unicode now and in Ruby 2.0, with a short compare/contrast section on each. That would be really helpful to me and to others looking for the same answers. But I'm seriously considering unsubscribing because of how no one > (except the folks who have been around for quite some time) seems to > respect the very thing that attracted me to Ruby, the friendliness of > it's community. Email is a terrible medium for communication, especially among creative folks that feel passionately about their art. I suppose these sorts of flame wars are bound to spring up from time to time because it's so difficult to discern the tone of someone's email. I also suppose you just have to take it all in stride, but I can appreciate your frustration when threads quickly elevate to the email equivalent of yelling. As far as unicode support goes, it's a complicated topic. People who > want to sum it up in one line probably don't really care about the > tough design decisions behind it. I don't want a one-liner, I want a one-pager :) I think it ought to be possible to summarize what our options are for unicode support in Ruby in one page, but I'm not sure such a page yet exists. I'd love to be proven wrong! :) -- Contribute to RubySpec! @ www.headius.com/rubyspec Charles Oliver Nutter @ headius.blogspot.com Ruby User @ ruby.mn JRuby Developer @ www.jruby.org Application Architect @ www.ventera.com ------=_Part_54081_26017078.1154115762568--