From: Mike Harris <GENIE@...>
Date: 2006-07-29T00:37:20+09:00
Subject: Re: For performance, write it in C - Part 2, comparing C, Ruby and Java

Chad Perrin wrote:

>On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 09:47:34PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
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>>Nevertheless startup times matters for some programms, so Peters post was
>>not useless, I feel he gets critizised a little bit too much for his post.
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>. . . and timings without JVM startup time are at least as "useless"
>since there are similarly "irrelevant" parts of the total time for
>completion of C, Ruby, Perl, Python, PHP, and other-language programs
>that might be benchmarked.  Unless we're going to eliminate all time
>from all benchmarks that isn't strictly related to execution, we'd
>better just admit "defeat" on this one, and include JVM time (especially
>since there's no sane way to eliminate all time not strictly related to
>execution in a "true" interpreted language -- making any possible Ruby
>benchmarks "irrelevant" and "useless" by that argument).
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Uh, you start your interpreter/jvm/whatever, get everything started, 
then time an operation.  it's certainly not "impossible"