From: Chad Perrin Date: 2006-07-29T00:13:17+09:00 Subject: Re: For performance, write it in C - Part 2, comparing C, Ruby and Java On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 09:47:34PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote: > > Nevertheless startup times matters for some programms, so Peters post was > not useless, I feel he gets critizised a little bit too much for his post. . . . and timings without JVM startup time are at least as "useless" since there are similarly "irrelevant" parts of the total time for completion of C, Ruby, Perl, Python, PHP, and other-language programs that might be benchmarked. Unless we're going to eliminate all time from all benchmarks that isn't strictly related to execution, we'd better just admit "defeat" on this one, and include JVM time (especially since there's no sane way to eliminate all time not strictly related to execution in a "true" interpreted language -- making any possible Ruby benchmarks "irrelevant" and "useless" by that argument). -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);