From: N Okia Date: 2006-07-27T06:48:31+09:00 Subject: Re: RLisp - Lisp naturally embedded in Ruby My thoughts, as obtuse as they ever are: 1) I have really liked Ruby for the very reason that I can often express algorithms from scheme/lisp directly in Ruby, but with a much more readable syntax. Yes, This will be controversial to the lambda devotees. However, my point is that Ruby can do this far easier than languages like C or Java. 2) The 'endless discussion' does seem to be a feature of learning to program in Lisp. I suppose this may be because people who program in Lisp give a lot of thought to details of both design and implementation of software. However, I suspect that it may be that Lisp attracts a certain amount of what we used to call 'rules lawyers' at the gaming table.