From: Chad Perrin <perrin@...>
Date: 2006-07-26T10:38:53+09:00
Subject: Re: I'll have the duck!

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:33:12AM +0900, James Britt wrote:
> Hal Fulton wrote:
> >7rans wrote:
> >
> >>Anyhow, as far as I'm concerned David has once again runied a
> >>conversation that was actually showing signs of baring fruit.  As this
> >>point you can call it "donkey type" for all I care. Because a donkey by
> >>any other name is still as ass.
> >
> >
> >As far as I am concerned, David is smarter in his sleep than
> >you are awake. In addition to being knowledgeable, he is polite
> >and civilized and can speak his native language. On top of that,
> >he has made uncountable contributions to this community. Your
> >greatest contribution was during the time you quit posting.
> 
> I like the work Trans has done, but I'm really surprised to read such 
> harsh words about David Black.  Hal's summation (sentences 2+3) is 
> dead-on, though the personal sniping (however much I think I understand 
> Hal's reaction) doesn't help.
> 
> I fear that there has been a gradual shift in the group demeanor.  Where 
> once personal attacks were few and far between, and those who engaged in 
> them were quickly called on it, it seems now that (some) people are more 
> willing to toss around nasty, personal comments, and (many) more willing 
> to excuse others or turn a deaf ear.

I'm not prepared to render judgment on Hal at the moment, but 7rans
should receive at least as much blame for rudeness as Hal (if not
moreso, in a "he started it" sort of sense), for that "still an ass"
crack.

Having been on this list only a few days so far this time around, I
can't offer any useful observations on the general demeanor of the
community as embodied by ruby-talk.

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