From: Ola Bini <ola.bini@...>
Date: 2006-07-25T21:05:44+09:00
Subject: Re: RLisp - Lisp naturally embedded in Ruby

Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> 
>> BTW, did you consider adding hygienic macros?
> 
> I couldn't understand them from the standard, and Paul Graham
> keeps saying that they're horrible, so I wasn't very inclined to try :-)
> 
> Can you show some examples where they are better ?
> 

Which standard?

Paul Graham obviously knows what he's talking about, but there is such 
things as differing opinions. Wasn't it you talking about breaking with 
convention? Break with Graham, I say!

Hygienic macros remove some of the power of macros, but the power of 
real macros is easier to misuse and get subtle errors from. Are you used 
to real ones, hygienic suck. But they're better for average developers 
(which is way Graham doesn't like them).

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