From: gregarican Date: 2006-07-25T21:05:10+09:00 Subject: Re: Had Ruby interview, considering J2ME as well ... surfunbear@yahoo.com wrote: > I don't feel motivated to write a J2EE app on my > laptop in order to learn J2EE. I like to read books, but ultimately I > feel I need to write code to be able to comfortably put something on my > resume. [...] Without the > motivation to write J2EE code on my own, I'm probably caught in catch > 22. I can empathize with you. There was a mobile app I was trying to deploy on Palm OS PDA's and the best vehicle for this that I found was J2ME. So I tried to learn the ins and outs of this Java implementation. First by reading books and online documentation. But that can only get you so far. Especially for all of the tedious ins and outs of a Java API doc set :-) Ultimately I needed to write some smaller, less ambitious test programs using it to get hands-on experience. Without that area my practical knowledge of J2ME wasn't complete. And I just couldn't make myself do it. Since this wasn't 100% necessary to port the mobile app over to Palm OS I just wound up settling for an app that ran on Windows Mobile and Embedded Linux mobile platforms. I run into similar situations with Smalltalk. There were a couple of mockups of applications I was working on that I completed using Dolphin Smalltalk. They have very nice tie-ins with Windows and make it easy to tap into existing API's such as ActiveX components. But I couldn't make the leap of faith to start writing a bunch of sample programs using Smalltalk to get the required hands-on. I have perhaps 8 Smalltalk books and have studied the syntax and basic classes from here 'til doomsday. But without the discpline to write test code on it my knowledge isn't practical. Maybe this means that I just like Ruby better and unless I'm forced to use an alternative language I can't make myself :-)