From: Dumaiu Date: 2006-07-23T16:20:12+09:00 Subject: Re: when I say method_defined? I mean it! Tempting as it is to respond to Dr. Seuss, I think it makes more sense to ask you to state your point as succinctly as possible so as to prevent further misunderstanding. I'm guessing you dislike the fact that method_defined?() doesn't consider private methods--? -J