From: Lothar Scholz Date: 2006-07-21T22:06:06+09:00 Subject: Re: One-Click Installer: MinGW? or VC2005? Hello stu, s> 10% is a LOT! I'd like to see these numbers that proove 10%. s> I'd be sure there is a difference but 10% is ridiculous. I measured this with my machine. I only did a -O3 with gcc so maybe i missed something but i wont out of box optimization. s> And how close to the C++ spec was vc6? it was ABYSMAL! Its better in s> vc2005. gcc broke plain C, not C++. And i don't care about spec's but i care about the millions of lines of code that are out there in the world and the dozens of millions of money it needs to convert them. My conclusion since this day is and still is never trust the GCC team. s> The VC++2005 Express is 474mb download Hmm, i must say i hadn't looked at it, the VC6++ free download was something like 10 MB but i think Express does no contain the whole IDE. >> To cut a long story short: I don't trust MinGW. s> I smell a rat. Most of your complaints are bogus. No. Most of the projects that run in great trouble by choosing wrong tools didn't had these problems for technical reasons. s> Doesnt microsofts license forbid redistribution of VC Express anyway? Maybe. But because i think the one click installer shouldn't include the compiler this is not a valid argument for me. -- Best regards, emailto: scholz at scriptolutions dot com Lothar Scholz http://www.ruby-ide.com CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's