From: Nat Pryce Date: 2001-08-24T08:41:14+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:20222] Re: Bruce Eckel's criticism of Ruby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niklas Frykholm" > I think that is kind of a natural development. When a language is small > and new, the people who seek it out are open-minded langauge enthusiasts > and explorers. If they weren't open-minded they wouldn't look at small and > new langauges. As the languge grows the proportion of open-minded people > shrinks. The case of Python indicates that this can happen even when the > language is simple (i.e., without the Perl arcana) and emphasizes > Computer Programming For Everybody. > > comp.perl.lang.misc is essentially unreadable. comp.lang.python seems to > be going the same way. When Guido recently tried to bring up some design > issues for discussion (such as changing the meaning of the "/" operator) > the result was an improductive flamewar. > > Now the important question: How can we prevent this from happening to Ruby > when it gets its well-earned success? We should stay humble and encourage > people to look at other languages(*). What else? After a certain point it might be useful to divide Ruby discussions between language users and language implementors/developers. The C and C++ newsgroups are divided along those lines into comp.lang.c/c++ and comp.std.c/c++. Cheers, Nat.