From: Chris Moore Date: 2001-08-24T04:19:14+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:20199] Re: Bruce Eckel's criticism of Ruby As a programmer I started on my first computer (Apple IIe) using Applesoft BASIC. From there I started using gwBASIC and then QBASIC, Visual BASIC, and finally C++ and Visual C++. By this point I had reached the understanding of why good programming practices including object oriented languages, readability of code, and appreciated instant code testing. I also stopped programming because C++ wasn't fun, VB took too much time to learn the add ons for gaming style stuff (after making yahtzee there really wasn't anymore drive ;) and after doing full multimedia (as in moving graphics with sounds and effects, with mouse input hacked in) in QBASIC and not having anywhere further to go. Ruby though has the feel of QBASIC (instant run, readable, FUN) with power (GUI toolkits, one line hacks, OO, etc.) I didn't come from perl smalltalk or python. I came from BASIC, and this is perfect. ------------------ Chris Moore As a dog returns to it's vomit so a fool totheir folly -God