>From: TAKAHASHI Masayoshi

>Reply-To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org

>To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)

>Subject: [ruby-talk:20170] Re: Bruce Eckel's criticism of Ruby

>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:28:28 +0900

>"Aleksei Guzev" wrote:

> > # Harsh, maybe, but that's my impression: if you've used Python

> > # at all, you

> > # wouldn't give Ruby a second glance. "

> > #

> >

> > I used Python at work for two years. After testing Ruby I had migrated

> > to Ruby completeley. My coworkers followed me.

>You are not minority of Ruby users.

>There is a interesting result of RubyGarden pull.

>http://www.rubygarden.org/pollBooth.php?op=results&pollID=5

>About 40% of voter (= Ruby user, maybe) have already known Python

>and use it (if they couldn't use Ruby). In other words,

>they use Ruby, although they have skills to use Python.

>Ruby is "Programmers' Best Friend" (as http://www.ruby-lang.org/ ),

>even if they are Python programmers :-)

>By the way...

>IMHO, it seems that Pythoneers say 'Hmm. Ruby is not better

>than Python, but it is useful for Perl user', while Perl guys

>say 'Ruby is not more attractive than Perl, but it is a good

>alternative of Python (or Smalltalk).'

>Of cource, Smalltalkers seems to say 'Ruby is not the alternative

>of Smalltalk, but it seems better than Perl or Python.'

>It's interesting, isn't it? :-)

>Regards,

>TAKAHASHI Masayoshi (maki@inac.co.jp)

You are lucky.

I do not have the privilege to use either Python or Ruby at work, your management may not be watching you. I have to use what admin loaded on the Unix box, and now they are still Perl, Tcl/Tk and Expect. Whenever I mention Python or Ruby, the answer is :"Oh yeah, what about Javascript, PHP, and Lua. Do you want to try them also?"

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