From: Thomas E Enebo <enebo@...>
Date: 2006-07-07T23:47:09+09:00
Subject: Re: Grails

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006, Oliver Wong defenestrated me:
> 
>    Thanks, that was interesting.
> 
>    It sounds like, a best, the Java team and the C# team were essentially 
> developping generics at the same time. So I don't think what happened was 
> the Java people were like "Oh crap, C# has generics! We better get it in 
> Java ASAP!" Rather, I think there was a lot of academic research of 
> generics at the time, and both teams (coincidentally?) felt "now" would be 
> a good time to implement generics into their languages, where "now" is 1.5 
> for Java, and 2.0 for C#.

  Java unofficially had generics in 2001 if you wanted to step outside
Sun for your compiler:

http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/

  I think there were several projects like this that helped give fuel years
before Sun did it officially.  You know the Sun engineers and JCP experts
had a large handle on their options long before the JSR offically kicked
off (much less a production release of it).

-Tom

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