From: James Britt Date: 2006-07-07T01:16:58+09:00 Subject: Re: Grails Tor Iver Wilhelmsen wrote: > > > The funny thing is this: Ruby fans push Rails heavily, but what else > does Ruby have going for it? Java didn't have Rails, but it had a ton > of other frameworks and technologies. Rails fans push Rails heavily, Ruby fans push Ruby heavily. There's some overlap. Ruby has Ruby going for it. I don't know how else to explain it. If people need a complete framework in order to appreciate or get value from a language, then they may not see the value in Ruby itself, and maybe it's not the language for them. -- James Britt "Blanket statements are over-rated"