From: Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <jadedgamer@...>
Date: 2006-07-06T23:56:17+09:00
Subject: Re: Grails

"asj" <kalim1998@yahoo.com> writes:

> In 2001 C# was introduced by Microsoft as a Java-kIller...I remember
> the big hype back then, and even the editor-in-chief of JDJ magazine
> said Java might not even last 5 years!  As a result, the JCP started
> introducing some C# like featuires (generics for one)

Generics were proposed in 1999, and a preprocessor (GJ) existed for
the purpose, and "preview" code for generics was available from Sun in
May 2000.

http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/gj/

Other 1.5/5.0 features:

- Typesafe enums (unlike the prettified ints of C) were used prior to
  the inlusion of the standard mechanism by implementing the Enum
  pattern.
- Varargs: Syntactic sugar for Object[].
- Attributes: People used XDoclet for much the same, the difference
  being the XDoclet-based information didn't end up inside the class
  files.

> Finally, the new hype (and it seems every few years a new hype comes
> along) of Ruby caused the introduction of Rails-like frameworks like
> Grails.
> 
> http://grails.codehaus.org/

The funny thing is this: Ruby fans push Rails heavily, but what else
does Ruby have going for it? Java didn't have Rails, but it had a ton
of other frameworks and technologies.