From: "thoran@..." Date: 2006-07-05T12:22:40+09:00 Subject: Names, Names, Names, and Distractions Dear Matz, With all the discussion of (the mere?) naming of certain method invocations lately I began to wonder about how your time is best spent. I wonder if you would care to comment on the tradeoff between your time in discussing changes and implementing those changes, given a greater or lesser extent of influence of those with whom discussions are being had. In other words would we generally be better off buzzing off and letting you work? As much as you are a fan of Perl, or Larry at least, we may have observed a certain stagnancy with Perl, and this may have a relation to there being more people being allowed (and wanting to have) input; and the O'Reilly book is known as the Camel book, perhaps for a reason? (Hint: horses and committees. Also, does anyone know as to whether the use of this etching was deliberate? BTW, this joke is most unfair on camels too I might add; as there is no such thing as poor design: only better and worse fitness for purpose, which is a human concept and anthropocentrically biased anyways. Please note that I am no great fan of camels as they can be cantankerous and spit.) I realise that a response from you to this question which if it is essentially that the direction of the language is going to change to the extent of nil to very little as a consequence of everyone's efforts might piss some people off; although I assume that this isn't likely to be the response, since the level of interaction 'should' be indicative of your interest in receiving them. Yet I would still be interested in a comment from you and for such to potentially influence the process, even if it is little more than encouraging (some of) us (me?) to buzz off voluntarily. I also realise that such comment or discussion may already have been had, in which case I'll take silence to mean that this is sufficiently commonly known---such that this is not at issue and lest I waste any more of your time... (I'm aware of your comments surrounding completeness of suggestions, but that's all.) I'm mostly curious, a tad deferential, and a little concerned that 'we' might be delaying 2.0! Sincerely, thoran P.S. Note that as I have sufficiently little say on the subject of language design I have the self-imposed discipline to shut up!