From: pat eyler Date: 2006-06-23T02:16:39+09:00 Subject: Re: RailsForge On 6/22/06, transfire@gmail.com wrote: > > pat eyler wrote: > > On 6/22/06, transfire@gmail.com wrote: > > > I notice so many new projects are RoR oriented these days. Anyone > > > thinking about a dedicated RailsForge? > > > > I already worry about the growing separation between the RoR and > > Ruby communities. I'm afraid that a distinct RailsForge would only > > exacerbate the problem. > > Growing separation? Huh. That's interesting. I worry about similar > idea, I think, but from a different perpective. I worry that Rails is > consuming Ruby and that in time Ruby may loose most of it's identity as > a language akin to Perl, say. And instead become thought of more like > PHP. I think we might not be as far apart as you think we are. My concern is more that the Rails community loses sight of Ruby and ends up drifting with a "different" Ruby than the rest of us have, and that their Ruby is the only one the rest of the world sees. > > As for why a RailsForge. I personally have scant interest in Rails, so > all that Rails stuff is additional noise I must filter. And I imagine > there are Rails folk who are just the opposite. It's not like we can't > browse both sites, but at least it could help separate and organize > intent. I also have little interest in Rails, but I do see some cool things that could jump out of the Rails community and into the Ruby community. I'd also hate to put one more stumbling block between the Rails-folk and Ruby. The fact that Rails users already try to start up Rails/Ruby groups in areas that already have Ruby Brigades leads me to believe that we need to work harder to remind the Railsians that there's a great language hiding in their framework, with a vibrant and interesting community already. As far as differentiation, perhaps we just need to do more work to provide the separation within the existing RubyForge site, for example: * provide a Rails only, Ruby only, and mixed feed of announcements * provide searches local to those views > > Just a thought, > T. Thanks for sharing, -- thanks, -pate ------------------------- http://on-ruby.blogspot.com