From: Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>
Date: 2001-08-16T05:21:39+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:19839] Re: Ruby GUI

I'd be happy to do Fox and/or Tk though I would probably need some help with
both. I am working on Windows mostly so those would be better for me. 

I have created a mailing-list group at groups.yahoo.com for ruby GUI
discussions. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ruby-gui to sign up for the
mailing list. Anyone interested in pursuing the project listed below please
join up.

As a side note, implementing a number of sample applications in the various
toolkits will give the ruby community a good starting point to start
debating the best "ruby" way to do GUI design and implementation.

Steve Tuckner

-----Original Message-----
From: avdi@avdi.org [mailto:avdi@avdi.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:05 PM
To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Subject: [ruby-talk:19833] Re: Ruby GUI


Quoting Steve Tuckner <SAT@MULTITECH.com>:
> How about as a starting point we define some sample applications and
> then
> code each one in Tk, GTK, Fox, and Qt. Then we try to see what can be
> abstracted out as common to each and we build a GUI module (like the DBI
> module) to contain these abstractions. Some sample applications could
> be:
> 
> 1. A simple dialog box
> 2. A simple dialog box with nested dialogs
> 3. A document oriented applications with multiple windows
> 4. A file explorer

I'm game.  Since I'm equally unfamiliar with all of the above toolkits,
which 
one(s) *don't* you want to do?

> Also one idea not being discussed is to build the Ruby GUI on top of
> very
> minimal OS services like BitBlt, and CreateWindow. This is the way
> Smalltalk's GUI is written.

Seems like that would mean an awful lot of work just to get up to the level 
that current toolkits are already at.  And implementing native look&feel on 
each platform would be a pain in the tuckus.

~Avdi