From: Keith Fahlgren Date: 2006-06-12T21:14:38+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby for Highschoolers? On Sunday 11 June 2006 7:33 pm, Timothy Hunter wrote: > > For student just starting to learn a language, a good IDE would > > help greatly. > > > > All right, I'm listening. How would an IDE help? Well, if you're learning to program in Scheme and hear everyone say "Ew, I can _never_ figure out those damn parens,"[1] you can give them a real IDE so that they essentially never have to worry about the parens again (see DrScheme or vim with proper syntax highlighting and %), nor do they need to learn how to use a more advanced editor. Now, if you're learning programming in Ruby, an IDE may not be as important, but it's probably useful to remove as many barriers to entry as possible--you want the kids to be learning the language, not :wq or CTRL-X CTRL-C. HTH, Keith [1] On Sunday 11 June 2006 1:54 pm, Nicholas Evans wrote: > That said, I saw people getting incredibly confused by the idea of > matching the curly braces up. On Monday 19 September 2005 12:32 am, Kev Jackson wrote: > - I think from your list it covers 1,2 and 3 (but only in my > opinion) Cons > - notoriously alternative > - wierd keywords (car?) > - braces everywhere! > - not so easy to learn (not 4 in your list) On Saturday, 26 Mar 2005 07:44am, Csaba Henk wrote: > So the point is that you can get "lisp powa" in a modern scripting > language as well without burying yourself under tons of parens and > whew-how-the-heck-should-I-name-this-one like function names. .....