From: Austin Ziegler Date: 2006-05-23T12:30:46+09:00 Subject: Re: Zed and Luis drop the bomb on Ruby's poor performance On 5/22/06, Madan Manoharan wrote: > On 5/22/06, pat eyler wrote: > > On 5/22/06, Madan Manoharan wrote: > > > On 5/22/06, Kirk Haines wrote: > > Read what Zed said about Rails app performance though. Even though > > Ruby can be slow, he said that with its built in caching, Rails apps are often > > faster than Java Web apps. > Pat, that is exactly the point: Ruby is slow; so you have to create > work arounds! Not something I would like to hear, if I were evaluating > a language. No, that's not the point. That's you missing the point. Caching is usually better than recomputing for certain classes of applications in any case, even if it's partial caching. There's a reason that you use templates wherever possible in output -- it's partial caching. > We need a version of Ruby that is *comparable* in execution speed to > Python or Java. If it is YARV, then let us roll it out fast (no pun > intended) It will be rolled out in its time. And, to be honest, Ruby *is comparable* to the others in execution. Numbers, Madan, numbers. Hard numbers will run every time, not consultant feelings. -austin -- Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca