From: "DEBAUN, STEVE [AG-Contractor/2400]" Date: 2006-05-18T05:23:46+09:00 Subject: Re: Ticked Off If whatever you're [copying] is actually causing people to [not acquire] some of what [non-consensual IP laws require you give them] (money) then you're a thief. (edited for accuracy, sorry for dragging out this thread) -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Moss [mailto:jeff@opendbms.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:16 PM To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org Subject: Re: Ticked Off If whatever you're stealing is actually causing people to lose some of what is rightfully theirs (money) then you're a thief. Ethically, I'd say if you're some kidd-o or a dysfunctional adult (burn!) who wants to learn rails and you don't have a job and otherwise wouldn't buy the book, it's the equivalent of checking it out from the library. -Jeff On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 01:01:20AM +0900, gwtmp01@mac.com wrote: > > On May 16, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Phil Hagelberg wrote: > > >Keith Lancaster writes: > > > >>I cannot afford a Mercedes. I therefore have no plans to buy one. > >>Should > >>I steal one? After all, nobody really gets hurt, do they? > > > >I know you mean well, but it really bothers me when I see copyright > >infringement equivocated with theft. It's not the same thing. It's bad > >in this case, and it's *totally illegal*. Shouldn't that be enough of > >a reason? > > Are you arguing that the word 'theft' is reserved to describe the > misappropriation of tangible goods and therefore doesn't apply to > copyright infringement or are you trying to say that there is some > ethical difference between the two situations? I'm confused. > > > Gary Wright > > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and is intended to be received only by persons entitled to receive such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Please delete it and all attachments from any servers, hard drives or any other media. Other use of this e-mail by you is strictly prohibited. All e-mails and attachments sent and received are subject to monitoring, reading and archival by Seminis. The recipient of this e-mail is solely responsible for checking for the presence of "Viruses" or other "Malware". Seminis accepts no liability for any damage caused by any such code transmitted by or accompanying this e-mail or any attachment.