From: C Erler Date: 2006-05-17T19:34:19+09:00 Subject: Re: Ticked Off ------=_Part_101452_7707665.1147862056518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 15/05/06, Elliot Temple wrote: > > > On May 15, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Jeremy Tregunna wrote: > > > > > On 15-May-06, at 7:03 PM, Elliot Temple wrote: > > > >> But is every case of piracy deserving of the same great scorn? > > > > Yes. > > > >> I realise this may be a tangential issue, but if someone can't > >> afford a book and is not going to buy it either way, whom has he > >> harmed by downloading it? > > > > That's like saying that you're stuck with someone, and you're not > > going to share your food either way, so what harm is there in > > killing the person now instead of letting him starve to death. > > That's just a silly way of thinking. > > The harm there is that he would die sooner than he would if he were > left un-murdered. He loses that amount of his life. But the thing is, > who is harmed in the hypothetical case I described? > > -- Elliot Temple > http://www.curi.us/blog/ When a person makes a physical item, they can gain a salary and everyone is happy, but when a person makes an information-based item, they can't gain a salary except by somehow producing something else (like support or something). The moral problem of the situation isn't about not harming the person by depriving them of property; everyone will agree they still have the items they started out with. The moral problem of the situation is tha= t someone has done something for you in return for an income, and you've spen= t your energy thinking up and defending a loophole. If a man helps you in return for you helping him, don't come up with excuse= s to take advantage of the guy. ------=_Part_101452_7707665.1147862056518--