From: Ross Bamford Date: 2006-05-16T23:58:16+09:00 Subject: Re: Ticked Off On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 21:35 +0900, Tim Becker wrote: > Pirating a pdf is not theft. Stealing something implies that the owner is no > in possession of that object. I.e. I steal your car, you no longer have a car. > Pirating is copyright infringement. There is a difference, even if > some people in this thread are implying copyright infringement is > tantamount to murder. I believe that "a person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it"*. Under those terms, I guess one might argue piracy isn't theft. However, to do that, you'd miss the point - I think the 'property' here isn't the intellectual property itself, but the expected income from it's sale. You do not buy the intellectual property - merely the right to a copy of it.** As a general observation, I would have to say that if you want to steal, then steal (just remember that what goes around comes around), but don't try to pretend you're any better than a common thief simply because you steal different stuff. * (Actually, thats the definition under my local law) ** IANAL -- Ross Bamford - rosco@roscopeco.REMOVE.co.uk