From: Austin Ziegler Date: 2006-05-16T21:54:26+09:00 Subject: Re: Ticked Off On 5/16/06, Tim Becker wrote: > Pirating a pdf is not theft. Stealing something implies that the owner is no > in possession of that object. I.e. I steal your car, you no longer have a car. > Pirating is copyright infringement. There is a difference, even if > some people in this thread are implying copyright infringement is > tantamount to murder. When you unlawfully deprive someone of something that is rightfully theirs, that is theft. The *act* which leads to that theft may be copyright infringement, but the end result is that something *has* been stolen from the publisher and, in turn, the author. There are legal means to get things which you do not own. Purchasing is one. Being given a copy is another. Going through some sort of *proper* borrowing mechanism (which has yet to be created for electronic media that doesn't also involve nonsensical DRM) is another. Downloading a PDF from a p2p site when that PDF is not being given away (and likely has someone else's name on it) is not. -austin -- Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca