From: Jake McArthur Date: 2006-05-12T15:53:40+09:00 Subject: Re: conversion issues --Apple-Mail-1--541587441 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed What's probably going here is that you just aren't aware of the general suckiness of most programming languages. I have yet to see one that I think is perfect for me or completely intuitive for anybody; Ruby is my favorite though. Really, try doing this stuff in C, Java, Perl, Python, Lisp, BASIC, PHP, whatever.... Some are easier to pick up on than others, but they are all extremely difficult to start with for a complete beginner to programming in general. Just keep at it (with almost any popular language) and you will get there. For the record, I think that, despite your difficulties, Ruby is probably one of the easiest languages for you and most beginners to start programming with. - Jake McArthur On May 11, 2006, at 10:16 PM, corey konrad wrote: > isnt it important that a language with that as its goal can express > simple programs in a simple and intuitive way? I am a begining > programmer and i find ruby counter intuitive so far and that > worries me > and makes me wonder if i am wasting my time with. --Apple-Mail-1--541587441--