From: ts Date: 2001-08-07T01:30:11+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:19230] Re: Some remarks from a nembie in Ruby >>>>> "R" == Renaud HEBERT writes: R> I wouldn't call this "changing completely the language": R> - the octal notation is merely syntactical sugar for "consistency R> purpose" You break some scripts R> - the addition of "getlines without end-of-line" methods is a suggestion R> to avoid portability nightmares: hardly a complete change. In [ruby-talk:19192] you want change #gets, or at least this is why I've understood. #chomp is portable. > IMHO, it would have been much better if by default: > gets and getline return without the end-of-line and there are other > methods which returns the line with the end-of-line: get_full_line for > example. For me, your proposition is to add #get_full_line, not to add "getlines without end-of-line" R> While it may be too pretentious, I noted what bothered me on the fist R> reading of the book, because afterwards you get "too used" to the R> 'little quircks' of the language and you can't see what is bothering the R> newbies.. Well, perhaps this is the difference with me. I've not read the book (it's written in a strange language :-)) but writing scripts. Guy Decoux