From: kate rhodes Date: 2006-05-04T23:49:43+09:00 Subject: Re: Sharp knives and glue ------=_Part_12201_22597119.1146754179161 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > Ruby has to evolve to support the needs of enterprise users. Perl doesn't seem to have catered particularly much to enterprise users ... pretty much just keeps adding libraries and not changing itself that much and yet it seems to keep going strong. [Yes i'm ignoring perl 6 because it's a) not finished and b) a completely different beast. It may as well be a different language that just happens t= o have similar syntax.] As far as being a rails app, last time i checked instiki had some pretty significant deviations from the rails way of doing things check out it's storage mechanism ... something which is at the core of most rails apps and the fact that it maintains state (rails apps are generally stateless, as fa= r as the app is concerned). Instiki may be a great app, but i don't think it's a great example of a rails app. As for idiot chefs. Even the greatest chefs screw something up from time to time when trying something new, or working in a different kitchen. Your comment about "If a non-complex Ruby app written by a skilled Ruby developer using standard Ruby tools breaks..." Are you honestly suggesting that if one non-complex app by a skilled developer breaks then the language it was written in can't be trusted? Because in that case we can throw out EVERY programming language EVER invented. -kate ------=_Part_12201_22597119.1146754179161--