From: Kev Jackson Date: 2006-04-18T10:18:59+09:00 Subject: Re: Newbie's Ruby IDE Editor Roundup, April 2006 >You twice mention 'reading the stack trace' in Java. That only helps if you >HAVE a stack trace. Many bugs don't involve exceptions. > Yes logic bugs, where the outcome isn't as expected, but these should be able to be covered with a unit test. I admit that in a complex system, sometimes you get to the state where the only way to test something is to construct a very large integration test simply to determine what is wrong - this basically points you towards refactoring, as a system where nothing can be tested without massive investment in infrastructure is not capable of being tested properly > I'm all for unit >tests, but sometimes a debugger is faster. > > > I think we'll disagree on this one - which is fine :) Kev