From: listrecv@... Date: 2006-03-30T14:13:42+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Black Belt One of the problems I'd have with a certification of this sort is that it focuses only on the least important aspects of the language - syntax, nomenclature, conventions, etc. What's really important is good design skills, especially using Ruby's tools (OO, metaprogramming, agility, etc.). And these are the type of things which are almost impossible to test on a curicullum based, multiple choice, certification. Knowing a language means little more than knowing a bunch of syntax. It's a world apart from knowing how to develop. Right now, there are only two languages where it's usually safe to assume that someone who knows "language" is also a good developer (Ruby and Python) - I'd hate to see Ruby fall from that.