From: "paul.denlinger@..." Date: 2006-03-30T00:48:42+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Black Belt I am learning Ruby as my first language, and have spent about one week on it so far. So far, I like the language a lot. Right now, I'm working my way through Pick-axe, and some other books to learn about the syntax and features of the language. In my case, having some kind of quiz/test would be helpful, as it would force me to test my knowledge, and would make me aware of holes in my Ruby knowledge which I would need to address. I like the idea of working up to different levels mentioned in Peter's posting about Python, and can see how it would be helpful to a lot of new fans of Ruby. I can understand how some people are worried about the word certification, fearing that it would create some kind of hierarchy of insiders, with everyone else being outsiders. Maybe this is because of the nature of the word "certification". However, if we can have exams/quizzes or whatever else you want to call them to help newbies like me to learn Ruby, that would be a really welcome move. Paul