From: Benjohn Barnes Date: 2006-03-29T08:14:01+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Black Belt On 28 Mar 2006, at 23:03, Jeppe Jakobsen wrote: > Hey if people is against an exam, why not make it more like a test > so that > people and especially newbies (like me!) would know on which areas to > improve themselves? > I've seen such a test for C++, and I thought it was a really great > tool. If you're not aware of it, you may get a lot from: http:// www.rubyquiz.com/ Certainly, the language tests I've done have seemed to be a terrible representation of my abilities (and I'm not just bitter about being bad at them, as I've generally done well :). For instance, in c++, they'd generally ask lots of ridiculous detail about totally obscure sections of the language (oooh, bit fields, and exactly what happens when you do all sorts of things that any good book will strongly warn you against - basically, questions that if you need to know the answer to, you're almost certainly doing something in an inappropriate manner). At the same time, they tend to miss out on more useful things like "do you know what the STL and Boost are, and why they're good". I think everyone I know with any kind of "official" certification for being competent with a technology believes it to be a total waste of time. Useful for getting the odd job, but otherwise pointless. :) But I've got to say, I'm not sure why I have an irrational dislike of the idea of Ruby certification. Maybe a simple one would be having a gem up on rubyforge :) And your "score" could be the number of downloads it gets :) So I'm a zero and a zero so far...